Misc info on ghosts In the Vastu, traditional Indian art/science of architecture analogous to Feng Shui, there is much said about ghosts in houses, their signs and how to build a ghost-proof house. ---- An account of Anavadyangi Devi Dasi: I have had some personal experience with ghosts and know the power of the Holy Name is dispersing them. I once had a very distressing encounter with lots of them. One night I was pulling an all-nighter in the then New BBT warehouse trying to get out a backlog of orders for the mailorder department. About one am I was getting quite beat and decided to sack out for a few winks on the sofa in the reception area. It seemed like about an hour, I woke up and felt myself totally surrounded by disembodied spirits. It seemed like thousands of them. I felt such dread. I knew I should just keep my eyes shut. It was almost like someone was giving me the imperative to not open them no matter what and just go back to sleep. Needlessly to say, I didn't give it a second thought and did just that. The next morning, I related the event to the receptionist who was a new Bhaktin from the local area. She then told me that a crematorium used to exist on the site where the new warehouse was built. Just last year, some friends of ours were telling me some of the goings on in the place they were renting, items disappearing or moving, unexplainable noises in the middle of the night, typical Poltergeist stuff. She also said there looked like blood spots in one corner of the bedroom on the wall which she could not remove. She had heard from neighbors that former tenants had used the place as a brothel and one woman had been killed. She was also a very "sensitive" person (and a native indian) and began to feel like someone was trying to communicate with her. One night we put together a little ritual. I wore my sari, brought my Gita and conch shell and incense. She brought out her tribal, ceremonial drum and a "dream weaver" and special salt. We put a wool blanket down and I made a small altar in the center. We sat around the altar while she made a circle of salt encompassing all of us. Then she sat down and we began chanting. I read some verses out of the 2nd chapter of the Gita, then lit the incense and did a small offering followed by the blowing of the conch. I blew two good strong times and was not able to blow the third. My friend then announced "she" (the ghost) was gone. And even her husband and I could feel it. The air felt cleaning and even smelled better. They never experienced any more problems after that. -- I offered this comment, a quote from the scripture called Skanda Purana: NA DAHO NA KLAMO NARTIR NARAKA AGNI BHAYAM NA HI YASYA SANKHA UDAKAM MURDHNI KRSNA DRSTYA AVALOKITAM NA GRAHA NA CA KUSMANDAH PISACA URAGA-RAKSASAH DRSTVA SANKHODAKAM MURDHNI VIDRAVANI DISO DASA (HARI BHAKTI VILASA 9/5,6 from SKANDA PURANA about the glories of the conchshell) The water within the conchshell, if it is seen by the Supreme Lord Krsna, if it is touched to one's head, he becomes free the fear of punishment, distress, degradation and fire, bad planets, black magic, snakes, devils. They run away in ten directions when they find that he has a drop of water on his head from the conchshell which is offered to Lord Sri Krsna. -- By Jahnu Das: I have read in the Garuda Purana that ghosts are very sinful people. One becomes a ghost usually upon dying a violent death, e.g. by falling from great heights, by being burnt, by being beaten to death, by accident, by drowning, by poison, or by committing suicide. To become a ghost is the result of a sinful life, i.e. having broken the laws of nature without caring for the plights of other living entities. Ghostly existence - existing in an aerial body - is a very frustrating experience, as you are still afflicted by the urges of gross physical life like hunger, thirst, envy, greed, sex etc., but you have no means of satisfying or getting rid of these urges. Therefore they always try to make trouble for others who have gross bodies, especially the ones they were attached to in their previous life. The only way to avoid ghosts is to perform pious activities, or even better to become reinstated in spiritual life. Especially Lord Nrsimhadeva protects us from all kinds of ghosts and subtle beings. There is a specific Nrsimha mantra which is guaranteed to drive away all ghosts: om hring kshraum ugra viram mahavishnum jvalantam sarvato mukham nrisingham bhishanam bhadram mrityum mrityu namamy aham You can also free a ghost from his ghostly existence by making an offering of food to Vishnu on his behalf, and feeding this prasadam to a bona fide brahmana. Your local temple could help you in this regard. -- This was spoken by Fuladi Maharaja, a recently deceased practitioner of Kundalini-yoga: A person's personality is recorded on the photographs or the clothes one wears. So one should never exchange the used clothes. Do not allow even your sibling to wear your clothes. The used clothes can be stolen and used for black magic. Women should never go out late at night during the menstrual cycle. You are more susceptible to intentional ghost attack during that time. Never eat food at anybody's house unless you know the host well. He may use some mantras to get some ghosts on your case. Never wear black clothes or shoes. Ghosts really love black objects. Never step out of house at the evening (dusk) time. Rather burn the ghee lamp in front of the deities and have a arotik. Be careful on the AmAvasya (new moon day). Drive vehicles carefully on the new moon day. Never stay near the cremation ground. Avoid passing by the cremation ground in the night time. Do not trample or kick any tomb in the cremation ground. Walk carefully when you go to the cremation ground. Never urinate near a tomb or in the cremation ground. Never urinate under a pipal (aswattha), banyan, tulasi or audumbara trees. Never sleep under a tree in the night time. Never wear somebody else's shoes or sandals. Keep some vibhuti (ash) from the fire sacrifice in a bottle. Apply a little bit of ash on the forehead everyday. Sprinkle the cow's urine little bit when during the menstrual cycle a contaminated woman touches some clothes in the house. -- A comment on the channeling file by the author: I wrote the article entitled *Channeling: Extrasensory Deception?* in 1991 after I read Joe Fisher's *Hungry Ghosts--an Investigation into Channelling and the Spirit World*, which was published in 1990. My article on channeling dispenses with the argument, that the tangible proof that the subtle guides are devas is that they help devotees' health. Pretas are very interested in the health of the bodies that they haunt, because they want to satisfy their desires through those bodies. The true follower of Vedic knowledge is *above* the modes of nature, even the mode of goodness. Worship of demigods is a deviation from Vedic knowledge. Comments that appear in brackets [like this] are my own. *yajante sattvika devan yaksa-raksamsi rajasah pretan bhuta-ganams canye yajante tamasajanah* Men in the mode of goodness worship the demigods; those in the mode of passion worship the demons; and those in the mode of ignorance worship ghosts and spirits. (*Bg* 17.4) [In his *Gita Bhasya* commentary on the above verse, Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana writes,] *karyabhedena sattvikadi bhedam prapancayati yajanta iti*: "Thus Lord Krsna reveals the distinction of one mode from another on the basis of worship." [His commentary goes on to tell us that] worshipers of demigods lack proper spiritual understanding. The faith of such worshipers, conditioned as it is by the mode of goodness, obliges them to serve deities like the Vasus and the Rudras. Then there are people who worship Yaksas and Raksasas like Kuvera [the treasurer of heaven] and Nirrti [a fierce, inauspicious goddess of the southwest with a black complexion and golden hair, who holds an iron noose]. These worshipers are in the mode of passion. And those who worship the Pretas [spirits of the departed] and Bhutaganas [other kinds of subtle entities] are in the mode of ignorance. Even twice-born *brahmanas* [who are supposed to be in the mode of goodness] and *ksatriyas* [who are supposed to be in the mode of passion] who leave aside their *svadharma* or prescribed duties [fall into the mode of ignorance]. Neglectful *brahmanas* receive the airy bodies of a type of firemouthed demon called Ulkamukha, while neglectful *ksatriyas* assume the forms of a type of demon called Kataputana. [And so this verse (*Bg* 17.4) depicts] those who, due to laziness in their observance of real *vidhi*, [remember: in *Gita* 9.23 Lord Krsna says that to worship demigods is *avidhi- purvaka* or a violation of the real injunction of worship] are situated by their materialistic nature in one of the three modes. Of course, by the potency of contact with genuine Vedic knowledge, they can rise above their materialistic nature and come to the factual Vedic level. The original Sanskrit of Baladeva's commentary is as follows. *karyabhedena sattvikadi bhedam prapancayati yajant iti sastriya viveka samvit hina ye janah svabhavajaya sraddhaya devan sattvikah vasurudradin yajante te 'anye sattvikah ye yaksaraksamsi kuvera nirrtyadin rajasani yajante te 'anye rajasah ye preta bhutaganamsca tamasa yajanti te 'anye tamasah dvijah svabharmavibhrasta dehapatottara labhdavayaviya deha ultkamukhata patanadisamjnah preta manusah pisaca visesa va iti vyakhyatarascat sapatmatrkadaya evam salasyat tyakta veda vihdinam svabhavat satvikatad ya nirupitah ete ca balavad vaidika satprasangat svabhavan vijitya kadacit veda 'pyadhikrto bhavaniti bodhyam* -- A comment on the channeling file by Gauranga Dasa: Undoubtedly in many cases these channeled entities are ordinary pretas, souls who are bereft of their physical bodies because of grossly sinful activities. So they try to gain possession of others' bodies for gratifying their sinful desires for intoxication, violence, and carnal pleasure. I will give some quotes from the Garuda Puranam regarding the pretas in the near future to this conference. Meanwhile I would like to refer to a case from a few days ago. I met a girl on sankirtana who looked like a really haunted person. I began talking with her. She had different kinds of psychologic diseases like fears, anxiety etc. She had attempted to commit suicide several times. She showed me her hand. It was cut in many places by a razor's edge. She confessed me that she liked seeing blood. Once she started practicing so-called Transcendental Meditation taught by Maharishi but all she was seeing during meditation is how she tortured killed other people and children. She was 14 years old. I began to explain her something about ghosts and possession and she grasped the idea. She related to me a recent event when she was sitting in a class in the school and suddenly she felt like someone took over her personality and began vibrating in her mind: "Kill yourself! Kill yourself!" She started yelling in the middle of the classroom and ran out, trying to cut her arteries. Somehow the others stopped her and the ghost let her go. So this possession can be very severe, especially in the case of those who are very mental, subject to the modes of passion and ignorance, and full with negative feelings and desires. The influence of the pretas can be decreased by cleanliness inside and out and around us, practicing the habits of the mode of goodness, mental strength, positivity and Krsna-consciousness, especially chanting Hare Krsna. My conclusions are however that not all subtle beings are exclusively demoniac and harmful. There are some who are more sattvic than the pretas. I base this on my talks with Bhanu Maharaja and Bhakti Tirtha Swami's book entitled Spiritual Warrior (Uncovering Spiritual Truths in Psychic Phenomena), especially chapters 3 (Angels and Demigods) and 7 (Strangers in our Bodies). I was talking to Bhanu Maharaja about the healing with reiki energy and prana. I mentioned to him that many healers report the appearance of celestial beings during the therapy who had radiant bodies and made the healer and the patient feel comfortable and safe. Many times these beings personally assist in the process of healing, entering the body of the patient and cleansing the aura, repairing cakras, removing poisoned and diseased tissues, sometimes even operating the organs in the body by using even instruments like scalpels and others, Of course all this is happening with the subtle duplicate of the body, and most often only the healer notices their presence and help. I asked Maharaja about who they were. He told me that they are guardian spirits or angels, who are lower than the demigods, but still pious and who always accompany the person and try to save him from bad deeds and help him. Maharaja said that everyone of us has at least one or maybe three or four of them always watching him. Although they are pious, they don't have completely realized spiritual knowledge, like the Yamadutas, who are servants of Yamaraja, but although he was a mahabhagavata, they didn't know that they couldn't snatch someone calling out the name of God like Ajamila did. So trying to establish the communication with our guardian angel, or 'inner guide" as popularly named, is not in any way replacement for accepting and surrendering to a Gaudiya Vaishnava guru, who can take us back to Godhead and give us Krsna-prema, because he is a pure devotee. The guardian angels (called amanava purusa in Sanskrit) are not pure devotees, but they are pious, so they can't answer all philosophical questions but usually tell us to accept what the devotees say. Both amanava purusas and pretas or bhutas can have superhuman abilities or a capacity to heal etc. but if accepted from a pious entity, you can eliminate your debt by worshiping Krsna, if accepted from a demoniac entity you will have to pay the price of being exploited for sense gratification and gaining very bad karma resulting in utmost suffering. -- When my child was born, both mom and child used to suddenly wake up at 2 AM (almost exactly every single day), with my child crying at VERY high pitch and my wife developing real bad rash on her hands and legs with itchy feeling and she could not even stand properly because of pain from rash. This used to last for about 20 min. and used to go-away as suddenly as it came. This used to happen at exactly 2 AM every single day for about a couple of weeks. Initially, I didn't think of ghost, but routinely went to near-by temple and performed Hanuman pooja. That reduced the 2 AM situation a little, but after couple of days, it came back. Then, we had pooja lemons that were sent to us from a Shakti Peetham (at Vijayawada). One night, i held my child with those lemons touching his body and waited for 2 AM. At exactly 2 AM, my child still was sleeping in my arms without usual high-pitch cry and my wife suddenly started to shout loud in sleep. When i touched her with the lemons, she was still in sleep, but stopped shoutings. She didn't has any rash or itchy sense. I woke her up to make sure she was doing fine. After that we kept those lemons under the pillows at every night. While it is hard to believe now, the fact is that it did happen in the same house that we have been living for about 5 years with lots of poojas on regular basis (we are a traditional family with all traditions carriedout just as done in india). Never had any issues with negative energy before or after this incident. http://www.r2iclubforums.com/forums/showthread.php/6898-Real-Ghost-Stories-that-have-happened/page3 -- Hanumatpresaka Swami: Ghosts are just fellows who have subtle bodies of manas (mind) and buddhi (intelligence) but relatively no gross bodies. It works like that. Each different species of body is a different mix of the three subtle and five gross ingredients. Of course, cats have a lot of tactile energy (prana) in their bodies. They can jump like mad. Ghosts are usually somnabulistic dudes. They died in great fear or great distress so they are wandering around the dream world "looking for their gold". In the USA we are very much in the mode of passion - nothing too high, nothing too low, "Just the facts, Mam". In South America and India experiences of subtler beings are much more common. My friend Bhakta Saranga Swami was living in New Mexico (The Land of Enchantment) before he joined ISKCON. His girl-friend was a native American. She purported to see peoples "auras", thoughts. One time he was sitting in her living-room with her and her two cats watching a booring TV show. Then she said, "There's a ghost moving across the room and boy is this one strange looking". My friend said, "Cut it out. Stop it". She said, "You don't believe me do you?". He said, "No. Stop it.". She said (he told me), "Then just look at the cats." He looked at the cats who were on the floor side by side at the foot of the couch and almost jumped out of his skin. They were sitting there crouched on the floor but they were both looking at something move across the room. Their heads were moving completely in synch from left to right looking at something he couldn't see. Rarely some of the ghosts aren't somnambulists. Some are quite aware and intelligent and can cause big problems. The Vedas list many different "species" of these subtle beings. My friend Rohini kumar was in Mexico in a village about 1972 when they were visited at times in night by duendes, dwarves. He and four other people once saw them run across their courtyard jump to the top of an eight foot wall and disappear. They were about two or three feet tall with little jackets with little buttons. The next day they asked the local people about this and they laughed and said, "Yes, we know them. They are duendes. They live in the forest and keep to themselves. Usually only rarely does anybody see them. But because you are new and foreigners they are curious. They are like children they usually don't cause any problems for anybody." Citteshvara is an ISKCON "Ghost Buster". He comes from a tantric family in Orissa that traditionally busts ghosts. He was asked to exorcise one new member of the temple in Australia who was obviously possessd. "Who is his closest authority?", He asked, "Because when the ghost leaves it will try to go to him". "The New Devotee Program Director," they answered but he's a long distance away driving a vehicle here". "Physical distance doesn't matter. These fellows operate on mental, emotional distance. Is he strong minded?", asked Citteshvara. I know him, Janananda. He personally told me this event. He is a very literal, down-to-earth guy. But while driving the car the ghost attacked him. He didn't know at all what was going on and only later confirmed the event and the timings. -- From my correspondence: Subject: How to contact Citeswarji Hari Bol, Jan. Thank you for promptly replying to enet and your experience with the ghosts. My daughter after visiting Vrindavan and India, keeps on repeating things to us, like She wants to go to temple, Suzan is driving her to Work, Miss K will take her out on Saturday, Maharaj went to India. She repeats all day, has hard time sleeping, eating, has no interest in any other thing. Before she used to watch devotional videos, she was smiling, looked forward to go to temple and paid attention. She was mentally slow from childhood but never showed such behavior before. She repeats above things but not mantra or prayers, although she knows mantra and prayers. I am helpless to decide what is causing the problem. I am not in favor of giving modern medicines which have long term side effects and something other can go wrong. So far she never took any medication, she is 22, and used to be very friendly. Please let me know your experiences about ghosts and Chiteswar and any other comments. Once again, thank you for prompt reply to our requests, Sincerely, ys, Antaryami Das Hare Krsna Antaryami Prabhu, _/\o_ Interesting - just yesterday I was discussing this topic on two separate occasions with devotees here... From your description I'd say that from 99% your daughter unfortunately has got some subtle companions. How did it exactly happened? Regarding the solution before inviting Citteswar I'd first consult a _qualified_ Vedic astrologer. (There are methods in prasna marga, spec. branch of Vedic astrology, for ascertaining the cause of the problem, offering a solution and testing its result before it's adopted.) > She repeats above things but not mantra or prayers, although she knows mantra and prayers. That's what they bar her from. She should by all means chant Krsna's and Nrsimha's names. If she can't she should hear them at least (best from Srila Prabhupada's tape), as well as hear Srimad Bhagavatam. Picture of Nrsimhadeva in the room keeps them away. Further, drinking caranamrita should be also helpful. This will give them hard time and they _may_ leave on their own. To give her no modern medicines is certainly right approach. They can't help in this case. (Friend of mine used to work in a lunatic asylum where many obviously ghost-possessed people were kept calm with the help of heavy medicals. This is called torture.) And pray for her recovery. This is a powerful help. > Please let me know your experiences about ghosts and Chiteswar and any other comments. I did it a bit. If you wish to know more about the ghosts from the bona-fide Vedic source, a sattvik Purana (Garuda Mahapurana) read the following relevant excerpts. (I compiled them initially for myself but it seems they can serve others in need.) Hope this helps. Your servant, bh. Jan Hari-Bol Bhakta Jan! Neha did Vraja Mandal Parikrama for last 20 days, walking from Varsana (Radharani's place) to Gokul and many other Krishna's places of Pastimes. Then she toured 20 days with Kirtan Party and preaching in state of Maharastra with H.H. Lokanath Maharaj. She was OK all these times. Afterwards she stayed in state of Gujarat with grandparents and mom. During this time, one day on morning walk she stepped over on burning lamp in the street with some paintings, looked like some folks had done some tantra. After this her behavior started changing. She cam to USA and day by day started getting worse. First she repeated going to Vrindavan and afterwards started repeating other irrelevant things. Doctor said she is depression due to cultural change from India to USA and not able to go back to school and see her friends, since she graduated from her school, being 22. I thank you again for selfless service to us and wish you blissful Krishna Bhakti. Ys, Antaryami das Dear Antaryami Prabhu, _/\o_ Thanks for your reply with info. Yes, it sounds like a tantric stuff. Just see, these materialistic doctors are not very helpful. 8-) One more thing about Citteswar. One French devotee told me that while he was working, still as Krishna friend, he was cursed by some hateful person. He was getting more and more sick and none could help him or even tell him what's wrong with him. Devotees told him to go to India, to visit Citteswar. But it took seven yajnas before the curse was removed. So to deal with these things can turn into a lengthy process sometimes. ys bh. Jan PS: To inform you about Shyamasundar P. and what can happen in this area I'm including one text he wrote some time ago: -- Subject: From the astrologer's Prasna note book. Hare Krsna! One evening in January 1993 I received a most unusual phone call at my residence in Laguna Beach, CA. The man was calling from a remote town in Northern Alberta, Canada; the last place I expected to get a call from. His problem which we shall presently discuss, was so bizarre, that he was referred to me by his psychologist who had some how heard of me. The man, lets call him John, was studying to be a deacon in the Catholic Church, the highest position for lay people. He was married and had children but his family life was undergoing difficulties over the last few years. His daughter had developed acute asthma. Then his wife gave birth again in July 1991 but the child died in Oct of the same year. They over came the tragedy and conceived again but after 20 weeks in the womb the child died--it had no brain! All manner of strange things were happening to them; they suspected that someone had sent imprecations and black magic against them. They obviously were quite desperate to come to this conclusion. Thus they were referred to me. I had dealt with Abhicara (black magic) cases often in India but since then only one or two cases. I was doubtful that such things could go on in N. America especially in Alberta. This part of the world is pretty low tech when it comes to this kind of stuff. But with the 'New Age' movement it is getting bigger. Anyway I still had my doubts. In such Abhicara cases I use special techniques that I learned while studying Prasna Marga in Kerala where this kind of thing is normal. The following report gave my findings. ______________________________________ Dear John, Hare Krsna! You asked me the question "Am I and my family the subject of a curse or black magic?" My investigation yielded very surprizing results. The answer is a resounding yes. I am surprized because I didn't think anyone in Alberta would have the knowledge or capacity to do such mayhem but apparently I was wrong. I was actually expecting the opposite answer as these types of black magic cases are quite rare. My study reveals that your enemy is or has been employing incantations with the objective of destroying you. It seems that they are directing pisachas, a type of witch on the astral plane, and balagrahas, evil spirits who especially attack children, to harass you. You were probably first attacked while having sexual intimacy with your wife. These attacks have manifested in the form of diseases with fatal consequence. I was very surprized to learn that your enemy seems to be a highly learned priest or intellectual type, I think a priest because there were several indications to suggest that the incantations were performed in a temple of some sort by a high priest who has accomplices of a lower class type. The enemy is an outsider from your family, he may have been an old friend at some time. The enemy lives at a distant place, not in your community. There is strong indication that this affliction can be stopped before it kills more, in other words you can be cured. There are specific remedies recommended but they are in the context of the Vedic religion which is different in form from Christianity. Essentially I would recommend sincere prayers and worship of Vamanadeva, a specific incarnation of God, to eliminate this evil force. You may want to pursue methods of exorcism which are utilized in the Catholic Church. Since it is only through the power of the Supreme Personality of Godhead that this evil can be destroyed, you should avail yourself of His mercy and protection. I am not an exorcist, but I do know some people who are knowledgeable in these matters. If you can't find somebody who you can trust in your church you can try calling a friend of mine, their name is _______, this person is also a devotee of God, their# is xxx-xxx-xxxx. They may be able to advise you. Please do not be fearful, these creatures thrive on your fear. Become fearless by placing yourself humbly under the protective shade of the lotus like feet of the Lord. I hope that I have been of assistance to you in your quest to serve the Lord of your heart. Yours sincerely Shyama Sundara Dasa _______________________________ I got a call a few weeks later from the psychologist's secretary who left a message on my answering machine saying that John was quite happy with the information I gave him. Then last December I get another call from John, this time he wants me to do a full chart on him. In the course of our conversation I asked him what happened regarding the abhicara? He said that he had showed the letter to the Bishop of the area and in consultation with other priests it was decided that it was indeed a serious matter and that he should have an exorcism! It seems that every diocese of the Catholic Church has one priest designated for doing exorcisms. The Bishop told John to contact this priest and have the exorcism done. The exorcism took place at the beginning of May 1993. I asked what results, if any, that he had noticed. He said that by the end of May, his daughter who had serious asthma had been cured of it for all intents and purposes and that things were much better now than before. Strangely, however, he said that his wife and he were on the verge of divorce (she was sexually dysfunctional because of having been serially raped from a very young age) and that he had decided not to become a deacon. I was wondering how this could be construed as being an improvement in his family life but he assured me that it was. I can only imagine how bad it must have been before. YS Shyamasundara Dasa -- my 2013 story: Liberating a ghost with verses from Shrimad Bhagavatam During fall 2010 I wrote for my website Ghost-FAQ article in Czech and during spring 2011 I translated it into English. In April 2011 died J.K., mother's cousin, whom I always used to call 'aunt'. I got a tinnitus, sound in my left ear. I read about its possible connection with ghosts. From time context and left, i.e female body-half, I got an idea that it could be J.K., for whom her children didn't perform any funeral rituals and the only person from her relation about whom she knew that can help her to leave was me. I asked the possible ghost to reveal his identity in a dream but it didn't happen and only tinnitus used to appear and dissapear depending on various unrelated spiritual activities I did. It again appeared in spring 2013 so on June 12 2013, the 30th death anniversary of my mother side's granduncle, I read about 20 famous verses from Shrimad Bhagavatam 1.2 and dedicated the result to him and other relations from that side (namely mother, grandmother, grandfather and J.K.). My left eye started to tickle strongly and it continued the second day but weaker and then stopped. Tinnitus completely disappeared as well. I understood it as a sign of a successful departure of J.K. Jaya Shrimad Bhagavatam! posted at http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43941/30029831/Liberating_a_ghost_with_verses_from_Shrimad_Bhagavatam?sdb=1 -- Prababička Ludmily Reslerové z Bartošovic se za první světové války přestěhovala do hájovny, o níž se tradovalo, že v ní straší. A skutečně - jakmile nastala noc, odehrávaly se tam divné věci. Z půdy doléhal rámus, jako když klusají koně, na schodech se ozývaly zvuky připomínající padající řetězy, neviditelná ruka zmáčkla kliku u dveří a tichounce je otevřela dokořán, aby s nimi vzápětí bouchla. Police s nádobím se převracela a opět sama postavila. Děti i dospělí z toho měli velkou hrůzu. Když už to trvalo několik týdnů, šli za farářem, ale ten si nevěděl rady. Nakonec problém pomohla vyřešit mladá cikánka, která jezdívala po okolních městech a vesnicích a byla známou vědmou a čarodějkou. Prababička se jí svěřila, co ji v hájovně trápí. Cikánka si vyžádala bílý hrníček. Když ho postavili na stůl, řekla: „A teď všichni dejte jednu ruku na hrníček.“ Sama tu svou položila až nahoru. Potom všichni odříkávali otčenáš za duše zemřelých. Teprve pak mohli sundat ruce. K překvapení všech přítomných byla v hrníčku rudá krev. Cikánka si ji prohlédla a řekla: „Pod oborou je zakopán člověk a vy denně chodíte přes jeho tělo. Duše toho mrtvého nenalezla klid. Dejte to tělo vykopat a pohřbít, potom budete mít klid vy i on.“ Nikdo tomu nevěřil, ale na označeném místě skutečně vykopali tělo vojáka. Dali ho pohřbít na místní hřbitov. Projevy strašení v hájence pak ustaly. (Arnošt Vašíček - Setkání s tajemnem I.)